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Imperialx
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« on: January 14, 2006, 11:50:40 AM »

Alas, I have decided to bring back my free logd hosting thingymajig.

All hosting will include:

Unlimited space
Unlimited bandwidth
1 MySQL database
1 FTP (so you can upload mods to your logd Cheesy)
Daily backups
Free subdomain http://yourservername.imperialx.com/
Free setup of all of the above

All servers would be running version 1.0.6.

If you want free hosting for your own logd server, send a pm to me and we can talk. Smiley
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« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2006, 12:00:58 PM »

What PHP and MySQL version are you running?
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« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2006, 12:05:26 PM »

Server is running on Apache 1.3.34, PHP 4.4.1 and MySQL 4.0.23.
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« Reply #3 on: January 14, 2006, 01:09:51 PM »

hmmm... tis the same versions strider is running on the server i hath my sites hosted on.

he hast told me of some security issues with newer versions of mysql and he prefers to wait before upgrading.

and, why say "alas"? is this not a good thing?
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« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2006, 01:11:33 PM »

It is a good thing, I just like saying alas for some reason. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2006, 01:23:09 PM »

Why have you blocked the "About Lotgd" and installed modules links?   Angry
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« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2006, 01:35:03 PM »

You must restore the link to about.php or you remain in violation with the license requirements.  Read this thread.  In particular, take note of Kendaer's post near the bottom of page 13.
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« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2006, 01:45:37 PM »

Oh crap...forgot to add those back in...I cleared the navs by hard coding the home.php and was going to move everything around in different cats...sorry ill readd them right now.
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« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2006, 01:49:49 PM »

Readded the 2 links I missed.
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« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2006, 02:47:39 PM »

Thank you.  Smiley
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« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2006, 07:35:31 PM »

You must restore the link to about.php or you remain in violation with the license requirements.  Read this thread.  In particular, take note of Kendaer's post near the bottom of page 13.

I have a question?

The following  is the LotGD license as stated via the About link.

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MightyE tells you, "We're going to take a few moments to try and explain this new license and the reasons behind it in plain English. The legalese for the license can be found online at http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-sa/2.0/legalcode and should be read and understood in detail before you use this code."

"This new license was chosen because of a failing with the GPL. It only covered distribution of source if and only if binaries were distributed."

"In a web environment, specifically an interpreted web environment such as PHP, merely installing a game does not constitute distribution, and therefore people were taking our work, making modifications to it and not releasing the source code to their modifications so that the entire community could benefit. They worked with the letter but not the spirit of the law."

"Investigation on the part of the authors however, led to the fact that the right of public performance was one of the rights normally restricted to copyright holders, AND that computer programs, specifically video games and interactive ones such as Legend of the Green Dragon were considered to be publically performed if run from a public server."

"The new license restricts public performance of the work unless the source code of the modified work is made available on demand."

"In plain English, this means that if you put this game on a web server and allow people 'outside of a normal circle of family and its social acquaintances' to play there, then you are publically performing this work and MUST either a) make any and ALL changes which you make to the game available on request (note this doesn't have to be available via the online source display link, but they must be able to ask you for the code AND receive a complete copy), b) make arrangements privately with the authors wherein they grant you a special license, or c) remove the code entirely from the machine."

"We do recognize that people want to have areas of their game which are theirs and theirs alone. To that end we will make the following exception to the normal requirements for source code distribution -- any module file which is not modified or derived from a module file included in the base distribution AND which does not require any other modules AND which does not require any modifications to the core code (code distributed with the base release) may be withheld at the authors discretion."

"We also want to make very clear that version 0.9.7 (also known as version 0.9.7+jt) was the final version released under the GPL. All versions, starting with the 0.9.8-prerelease code are only licensed under the Creative Commons license. We EXPLICITLY deny the right to import any code from a 0.9.8-prerelease or later release into a 0.9.7 and earlier release. Allowing this would cause that imported code to be released under the GPL and that is not something we wish to allow. Authors of modifications to 0.9.7 will need to re-release their modifications as derivatives/modifications to 0.9.8 code and place them under the same Creative Commons license. It must be done by the original author since only the original author has the right to change the copyright or license upon their work. [Additionally, reworking the modifications will be a good idea anyway as the mechanism for making modifications is substantially cleaner/clearer starting with the 0.9.8-prerelease code.]"

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I see nothing about keeping the about link? Or is this covered in the CCL as a whole? if so can you point out where(i cannot find it) Or did I miss something?

I am not asking this to be a start a**, i am asking because I base what I can and cannot do on the above.

Also from above;

"b) make arrangements privately with the authors wherein they grant you a special license"

Does this mean that I could offer you money, and get a commercial license? Where I am not under the CCL?

Elray Smiley
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« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2006, 07:53:39 PM »

Actually, if he has removed the about page, he is in violation of the license as Eric and I have informed him in the past.  Looking at his site,he hasn't not removed it, but he HAS removed some of the information that is required to be kept.   Such as the location of the download link for the core, the fact that the game owes some of it's inspiration to the original LORD, etc.

According to the above quote, removing the about page violates the license.

Removing links to the module information page removes all credit to the individual module authors, and results in unpleasantness...
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« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2006, 09:52:13 PM »

I have a question?

The following  is the LotGD license as stated via the About link.

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I see nothing about keeping the about link? Or is this covered in the CCL as a whole? if so can you point out where(i cannot find it) Or did I miss something?

See section 4.d of the Creative Commons License.
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If you distribute, publicly display, publicly perform, or publicly digitally perform the Work or any Derivative Works or Collective Works, You must keep intact all copyright notices for the Work and give the Original Author credit reasonable to the medium or means You are utilizing by conveying the name (or pseudonym if applicable) of the Original Author if supplied; the title of the Work if supplied; to the extent reasonably practicable, the Uniform Resource Identifier, if any, that Licensor specifies to be associated with the Work, unless such URI does not refer to the copyright notice or licensing information for the Work; and in the case of a Derivative Work, a credit identifying the use of the Work in the Derivative Work (e.g., "French translation of the Work by Original Author," or "Screenplay based on original Work by Original Author"). Such credit may be implemented in any reasonable manner; provided, however, that in the case of a Derivative Work or Collective Work, at a minimum such credit will appear where any other comparable authorship credit appears and in a manner at least as prominent as such other comparable authorship credit.

That specifically is what requires the module links to be kept.  The about page also contains copyright information (such as the fact that the game owes conceptual if not actual descent from LoRD) and therefore must be kept according to the same section.


I am not asking this to be a start a**, i am asking because I base what I can and cannot do on the above.

Also from above;

"b) make arrangements privately with the authors wherein they grant you a special license"

Does this mean that I could offer you money, and get a commercial license? Where I am not under the CCL?

Elray Smiley

Yes, it means you could *ask* for such a license.  However, we are under no requirements to grant one, and in fact, are highly unlikely to do so.  We are even less likely to give such a grant now that we have stepped down as primary maintainers.
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« Reply #13 on: January 19, 2006, 07:48:50 PM »

For anyone still needing hosting, I am currently having an issue with the server I'm hosted on. I was in phpmyadmin 4 days ago optimizing my servers logd database of overhead and the server thought it was a hack attempt and blocked my ip from accessing my domain completely. I have been in contact with the technicians for the server, but it doesn't look good. They have been misleading me in a variety of ways and don't seem to want to help me at all.

I'll keep you all updated as things happen.  Sad
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Imperialx
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« Reply #14 on: February 04, 2006, 04:14:16 PM »

I am now back into service with my hosting, and still offering free hosting. PM ME TODAY!  Cheesy
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