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alva
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« on: September 27, 2005, 06:47:04 AM »

Hello!

I have, in the spirit of same-sex marriages and flirting amongst the players made it possible for same-sex flirting in the inn.

Both genders can now talk to both Violet and Seth.

I made it optional as to whether or not Seth/Violet can get married.

I also changed the amount of charm needed for each message, as well as changed some messages. This to match the charmdisplay by Sichae: http://dragonprime.net/users/Sichae/charmdisplay.zip

The file is available for download at http://dragonprime.net/users/alva/lovers.zip

Best wishes,
  Alva
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alva
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2005, 04:19:31 AM »

There has come to my attention that there is an issue with the marriage, Embarrassed if you are married the message will automatically state that you're married to the person of the separate gender. And the flirting thing will automatically assume that they are both married to you (well, umm, if you're married to Seth and flirt with Violet you get the same message as if you had been married to Violet in the first place). I apologize for not having discovered this while testing the module out.

The reason is that both have the same UID (MAX_INT). This is the only problem (that I know of) that has been discovered this far. I will make as fast a work at fixing them. If you are using this module and have found something, please let me know.

Best wishes,
  Alva
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« Reply #2 on: September 30, 2005, 04:24:45 AM »

You'll come across several occassion throughout the whole game where same-sex-marriage causes problems.

The only real way to prevent this is to
a) allow ONLY heterosexual relationships or
b) allow ONLY homosexual relationships

Every solution differing from a) will result in the need to modify several files which you do not want to modify...

Every solution differing from a) or b) will result in the need to recode almost everything that has been done yet...
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Nightborn
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« Reply #3 on: September 30, 2005, 04:26:15 AM »

Hm, I use CortalUX marriage, have same-gender flirting and marrying allowed... and haven't experienced problems so far.
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alva
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2005, 04:30:21 AM »

Yes, it is in the spirit of the CortalUX marriage module I decided to change Violet and Seth (also because it was asked for by the players).

Besides the issue of knowing who they are married to, there has been no problems (as far as I know).

There has been coming in reports of places where they would want their wife/husband listed instead of Seth/Violet. Which can/will cause a lot of rewriting. And as it only occurs if you allow marriage amongst players in the first place, you would have to have that module together with it all. Somehow.

There is a lot of marriages going on in the game I admin. So I guess that's why these issues came up.

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  Alva
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« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2005, 04:38:49 AM »

Well... Most of these problems are not of a technical matter... They are textual... And will only occur in languages which have different suffixes for different genders...

"You miss your partner." is unisexual... will fit for gay/lesbian/heterosexual relationships...

But for a German game you'd have to decide whether there is a man missing a man or a woman OR a woman missing a man or a woman... Well too much... Wink
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« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2005, 04:41:28 AM »

True. I left the German "Ehepartner" or "Partner" which can mean both... at least it's not far away from it Smiley

But you're right.
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alva
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« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2005, 04:42:15 AM »

Yeah, that part is unisexual, in English anyway.. Smiley

But there are also things like "What if Violet could see you know?" which should be "What if *spouse* could see you now?"

Those things are around the game. Very many of them in fact. And one of my players is going about collecting all he can find. :p

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« Reply #8 on: September 30, 2005, 04:48:05 AM »

At least abigail has been recoded by us... (saucy has a copy of that... Tongue)

But for the other occurences: Telling your players, that deep, deep inside, they really only want to be a part from Violet's / Seth's life... Grin
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alva
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« Reply #9 on: September 30, 2005, 04:52:03 AM »

Well, wonder what their spouse will think of that? :p

Well, I am getting a list of those that are "wrong".

I do have the Abigail patch. Smiley And I have the one that allows for the Jeweler to sell jewelry to other players (for example your spouse).

But there are stuff like the Old Man, finding the dragon and dancing with Ella.

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  Alva
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« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2005, 04:59:45 AM »

As long as there is no core marriage system, it would be hard.

or... you have a string in the userprefs or settings ...based on the sexuality Seth or Violet as a potential partner, later replaced by spouse/husband.
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alva
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« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2005, 05:05:54 AM »

I have been thinking of either A) having it possible to flirt with both, but they are only, well, bi-curious so you can only marry the one of the opposite gender. Which would solve the Inn problems (as far as my brain can tell me right now).

The problems with all other messages does still remain.

Is it possible to marry Seth/Violet without the CortalUX marriage module?

Best wishes,
  Alva
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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2005, 05:20:48 AM »

marry him/marry her is in the basic module I guess.

I have same-gender flirting allowed, yet the texts say still Seth/Violet in the respective case Smiley but I can life with that by now.
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alva
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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2005, 05:34:26 AM »

In my module then, or a general issue?

Best wishes,
  Alva
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« Reply #14 on: September 30, 2005, 05:57:51 AM »

I use CortalUX module as well as the core-lovers.
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