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« on: January 22, 2005, 01:20:00 PM »

with the new licensing, what pages must be shown without having to log in?  specifically, i found a server that blocks the "about" page so that no module info and such is displayed.  just curious.
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« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2005, 01:23:41 PM »

All the stock pages are meant to be shown.

About. License Info. Module Info. Game Setup. LoGD Net

I believe that is it.

The site that you stumbled across, I don't believe is allowed to block out those pages. Since those download links must be up, to comply with the CCL.
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« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2005, 01:31:54 PM »

Blocking those pages also means they have editted core code - which means they are required to make those files available for download.  Where's the site?
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« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2005, 01:33:22 PM »

that's what i thought, but i didn't know if you could do it with a module somehow and if that would be legal.

http://dragon.playzen.net/
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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2005, 01:34:29 PM »

that's what i thought, but i didn't know if you could do it with a module somehow and if that would be legal.

http://dragon.playzen.net/

* Sichae chuckles manically and then beats his fists upon the ground

Hey, ya know who that is right, Talisman?
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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2005, 01:35:58 PM »

Yep.  We know exactly who that is.
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« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2005, 01:37:41 PM »

well come on then, out with it! Huh
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« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2005, 01:39:18 PM »

well come on then, out with it! Huh

That would happen to be Dr Fate, aka Lord Xander. Who is a petty thief of code. He also was spamming Central, with his URL. As well as stealing my private code, among many other things.
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« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2005, 01:40:03 PM »

oo la la, a repeat offender??
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« Reply #9 on: January 22, 2005, 02:24:45 PM »

He seems to have modified core code (which must be made available for download) and appears to be using some modules which he does not have permission to use.  He has also outright denied the author's requests for him to stop using them.

This is the type of admin and site that belongs in the hall of shame.  He takes from the community, but offers absolutely nothing - not even gratitude - in return.

I do believe he may shortly find his access to the mods hosted here in DragonPrime completely cut off.
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« Reply #10 on: January 22, 2005, 03:00:40 PM »

I try not to get to involved with other people. ANd nice lies Sichae. I have never spammed Central, as you would know if you paid as close attention as you say you do, as i have strictest polocies on my site for spamming. I was never given the IP to match it with one from my site. ANd also, nice lie about my steaking your codeing, as if i'd want to. Sichae's partner gave me the modules that he claims I stole.  And just to clear some things up, i removed the game setup info on my site for surprises, and so people would stop lieing and cause all sorts of trouble. I have never started any touble, and i expect the same in return. As for Sichae, who has harassed me time and time again, and accusing me of stealing his 'work', he has litteraly forced me to show him my PRIVATE work, that i wanted no one to see, to get him to stop harassing me, and leave me alone.

As for the SPAM thing, i though we could all be aduts here, and forget it. It was never resolved because people like Sichae kept telling people it was me, and everybody beleived it. No one wanted to cooperate with me, and give me any peice of evidence so i could find who it was, as they used MY name.

Now, good day to you all. IF you need me for anyreason, feel free to email me at LotgdAdmin@Gmail.com
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« Reply #11 on: January 22, 2005, 03:04:10 PM »

Yup, I am the biggest liar ever. I have never helped a single person and I harrass everyone. I forced you to show me such elegant coding. [/sarcasm]

Get over it. You modded core code, without making it available for download. Offense One.

You have refused my request, to take down my own private works. Offense Two.

As far as I am concerned, you are just a little child, now on the scrambling run, because you know it is the truth, and you can not face facts.
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« Reply #12 on: January 22, 2005, 03:04:17 PM »

The only person who has the right to release a module to you is the author of the module.  Sichae's 'partner' is not a coder and had no right to give you someone else's work.  Your moral and legal obligation is to stop using them if that is what has been requested of you.

You have responsibilities under the license which governs the game...you are strongly urged to learn what they are, and start abiding by them.
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« Reply #13 on: January 22, 2005, 03:17:17 PM »

what even more amusing is that he hasn't removed them completely even though he has tried.

He put the 'about logd' page back on his main page.  (which is good, because if he hadn't he'd have found a cease and desist letter being sent to him and his hosting provider).

From there you can get to the license info page, and from there the game info and the module info.

Lord Xander, you are required under the CC2.0 license to release any and all modifications to the code distributed as the LoTGD core, or else you are required to cease and desist using the code.   I will be mailing you an official notification of this and then you have 48 hours to comply before I contact your hosting provider.
Please note that I did not say you had to make the module info page or game info page accessible merely that you had to make publically available any and ALL modifications you have made to files distributed under the CC2.0 license.   Also please note that as part of the CC2.0 license you are required to make accessible under the terms and conditions of the game, the source you are running, which means you CANNOT legally remove *all* access to those pages though you can make them harder to find as you have done.

You are also, unless Chris Vorndran (aka Sichae) gave you explicit permission to use his Staff Primer module, required to remove it from your site if he so requests.  If you fail to do this, he is legally allowed to issue a similar cease and desist order as the author of that module, and under the DMCA, that is sufficient to get your hosting priveledges or ISP account terminated.  Please be aware of the legal ramifications of your actions.
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« Reply #14 on: January 22, 2005, 03:53:47 PM »

I have never inteneded to remove the About or the License Info, which have never been removed. The Game setup and the Module Info are the only ones i've ever intened to be removed.  And I have never denied anyone any of my modifications, only my private works. All they have it to ask. The reasonn behind that is so that I know who has what of mine.  I have removed the First of 'Sichae'e Works'   All the others he has accused me of i have yet to remove, as I'm not at home, and dont have the Programs to do so. And just as an imput, Sichae's partner's name is in the Aurthor slot on the one he 'Told' me to remove [e.g. Aurtho: Chris Vordran and Steven McCorry - I  cant remember his last name at the moment]


And please specify as what you mean by 'Source you are running' [Kendaer] I'm afraid I dont understand.
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